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Thank you for the kind messages. I have decided to return to editing here. I missed it too much to give up entirely. I don't know how active I will be. I'll see how it goes. John (talk) 20:34, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back, John! BilCat (talk) 20:48, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back! Ealdgyth (talk) 20:52, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- Welcome back...Modernist (talk) 23:29, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A friendly "face" returns - Great to see you back mentor! I have so many questions to plague you with... Sarah777 (talk) 00:20, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I might add you are doing great work - I haven't been blocked in a decade :) Sarah777 (talk) 00:21, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note, John. I hope you’re doing well—you know we appreciate you here. Drmies (talk) 02:19, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thanks for the note. Good to see you back, good to hear from you, hope you enjoyed the break. I'm in and out - more out than in, but am somewhat around. Victoria (tk) 19:34, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good to see you back, John, thanks for your encouragement for the music articles I've worked on in this past - I still want to write over 200 GAs so there is work to do. You should be able to request admin rights at WP:BN if you want them, otherwise I'm sure somebody can run an RfA for you. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:56, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Actually according to Wikipedia:Administrators#Restoration_of_adminship a period of over two years with no edits requires a new RfA. -- Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:47, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both. I have no immediate plans to seek restoration of my admin bit. John (talk) 15:11, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is good news, welcome back! – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 11:45, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back! Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 08:46, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

August songs

pics and thoughts on 13 August - If you click on songs you find what I last week - or this year - in case of interest. Martinevans is blocked over copyvio, better go to him in person. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I saw. Thank you for all the support Gerda. I missed you too. John (talk) 20:54, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for saying that, and for letting Martin know you are there! - Today "my" concert of the year (so far) is on the Main page, but not pictured, and I don't understand why --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:58, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for improving articles in August! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's a pleasure! John (talk) 13:31, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

thank you + the church where I heard VOCES8 and more discoveries --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back

	The Welcome Back Barnster
	Glad to notice you are back editing Wikipedia again. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:26, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there!

One good new thing for editors ... Wikipedia Library. You'll have to stick around for a bit to get access, probably, but it's a great resource for editing articles. Welcome back! Ealdgyth (talk) 15:16, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Flags

Hi! Why are you removing all flags from the articles? I read the rule and it seems that the flag with the country name in the infobox is fine. Cofcorpse (talk) 06:50, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:INFOBOXFLAG. John (talk) 06:51, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You may also want to see this RfC while you were gone... Ealdgyth (talk) 12:58, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oakbank Primary School

Waaaaay back in 2012, you redirected this school stub to the Perth article. The redirect came up as a speedy this week, which I had to decline as it's too old. As schools can't be speedied under A7, I've raised it at AfD. Just letting you know as your redirect was based on notability. Discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oakbank Primary School. Thanks. Ged UK 11:46, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your courtesy in informing me. John (talk) 21:16, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Joan of Arc

I was going to wait until the FARC on Joan closed before sharing the compliments, but your barnstar touched me, John, thank you! I may have expressed this before, but I want to state it again. Your joining the Joan FARC project was one of the greatest gifts to me. I feel you complimented my weakness regarding the proofreading well. You cleaned up flow, created more felicitous grammar, provided insight into difficult to resolve problems.

Somewhere about two or three months ago, I had finally gotten to that point where I was unsure how to move forward. I felt I had addressed the original concerns, and it felt like most of the follow-up criticism was becoming non-productive. Then you and SandyGeorgia joined in to help out in a way that was truly collaborative and brought life back to the project. You two created a great energy, and when Sandy in her stone-soup way invited some great FARC reviewers, who have jumped in, the whole process transformed into a positive, dynamic, and productively focused on making this article one of the best. It has also invigorated me, as it has brought that sense of collaboration that I was looking for in a FARC. Moving forward, I will keep in mind that your joining this was one of those turning points that made working on the article brought back that spirit that is one of the driving forces for why I chose to work on Wikipedia articles.

Your ability to project patience and kindness through what is an essentially functional process is a true strength that creates a positive enviroment that is enjoyable to work in. Sometimes I caught myself looking forward to seeing what you edited and what insights you had to share, as it often pointed out next steps for me. Who knows, even though Wikispace seems almost infinite, we may find ourselves working together on another FAR or FARC in the future. If so, I look forward to it. Thank you so much! Wtfiv (talk) 15:57, 1 September 2022

Thanks a lot for the nice comments! Working this FARC with you, Sandy, Victoria and the others, has been absolutely delightful. It should absolutely go without saying that if there is any other piece of collaborative work needing done, you should ping me. I have to be a bit judicious with what I focus on; it has to be something that interests me at least a little, and where I see realistic possibilities for improvement. But keep me in mind. Very best wishes, John (talk) 17:55, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Things

Great to see you back, and its encouraging to have an editor of your ability around again. Hope you had a good and safe covid. Ceoil (talk) 09:05, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, glad you're still here. I survived Covid, twice. Not great but I'm still here too. John (talk) 10:24, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At my age, just being is a pleasure. In your absence, I finally took Cut the Crap to FAC. Bernie Rhodes, who edits here quite a lot, was not pleased, and there were long conversations via numerous ips and usernames. He's a gas and extremely verbose man; liked him a lot and it was a rare pleasure as he almost never gives interviews. Ceoil (talk) 11:46, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! So you have. Nice work. John (talk) 18:00, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

John, welcome back! I missed seeing you around (although lately I haven't been on here as much—though I do hope to be back more regularly at some point). I appreciated your help and support on a number of articles. For this article [[1]] your vote of confidence, and Ceoil's, seemed to be key supports that helped promote the article, and I was grateful. I hope we can cross paths again soon on some article or others. Cheers! Moisejp (talk) 00:03, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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September music

Thank you for improving articles in September! Yesterday, we sang old music for two choirs at church, pictured, scroll to the image of the organ of the month of the Diocese of Limburg (my perspective), and if you have time, watch the video about it. And today I wrote an article about music premiered today, Like as the hart. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:47, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Gerda, it always cheers me up to hear from you. John (talk) 23:57, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

you said that so nicely --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

seeing you going over the TFAs: could you do that please for BWV 56 before the date (23 October)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:05, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Of course Gerda, that would be a pleasure. John (talk) 15:59, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

looking forward to that - perhaps look at others also beforehand, going by the archive? - some improvement made in the 16th hour doesn't help those readers who looked earlier --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:18, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alles scheint in Ordnung, Gerda. John (talk) 20:26, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Danke! - What makes Leipzig a city? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Its size and importance. I don't think that distinction exists in German. Our article says: "Leipzig has been a trade city since at least the time of the Holy Roman Empire." John (talk) 20:31, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

thank you - for project Germany, it's just size, and sure the present Leipzig is a city by that standard. While I understand importance, we have Town privileges, therefore I came to use city for modern places of enough population, but usually town for historic ones. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's a very beautiful city. I visited for the first time in 2017. It is sacred to me as the place where the revolution started, giving us all hope that unjust states do not last forever. John (talk) 22:28, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I visited with "my" Idstein choir, hearing the Thomanerchor three times. At Bach's time, they sang cantatas in the church where the demonstrations started (but the present interior design was installed later). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's fascinating! I also visited that church. I was really charmed by Leipzig, and also Halle. John (talk) 22:59, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

travel and strings sound --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fascinating. I was never there, but it looks beautiful. I can't wait to go back to Germany, though I don't know when that will be. John (talk) 19:01, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Let me know when you come - 20 minuted by car from Frankfurt airport. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:08, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the thanks

Thank you for thanking me. Thank you kindly for the thank you notification, for my small edits to the T-90 article, 2022 September 18 Sunday. Jerryobject (talk) 09:28, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all. The thank procedure is a really nice functionality of the wiki software, isn't it? John (talk) 16:00, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A.C. Monza

Hi, thanks for the small copyedit. I think replacing "journey" with "season" doesn't give the same meaning ([2]). I'm trying to convey the message that Monza began in the Serie A (in general) with a 2-1 defeat, since this is their first ever season. What other word do you think might work? Nehme₁₄₉₉ 15:17, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, not "journey", because a journey involves movement. Their journey was the process that led up to their presence in Serie A, not their first season there. John (talk) 16:02, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	Good work on Fiona Watt, Theroadislong (talk) 19:00, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! John (talk) 19:05, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Between vs. Among

Between applies to two items. Among is used for 3 or more items. That's not my rule; it's what the words mean. RationalPedant (talk) 23:57, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of people think that. But it isn't true. Grammarly describes it as a "myth". John (talk) 06:08, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Soham murders

Thanks John. Some meandering content needed trimming. Enquiry as opposed to inquiry is more formal in British English? Different sites convey conflicting messages. Could you check this for me when you have a few moments. Thanks again. Kieronoldham (talk) 20:42, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, thank you for writing such a comprehensive article. I'll look into "enquiry" versus "inquiry". John (talk) 20:43, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. British English and American English seem to overlap at times (even on reputable sites). Best regards, --Kieronoldham (talk) 20:46, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They are interchangeable but "inquiry" seems to be favoured for uses like this, so I changed it back. "Inquiry" is the spelling the government used. Thank you for your vigilance. John (talk) 20:49, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Featured Article Save Award

On behalf of the FAR coordinators, thank you, John! Your work on Joan of Arc has allowed the article to retain its featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. I hereby award you this Featured Article Save Award, or FASA. You may display this FA star upon your userpage. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 02:14, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! John (talk) 09:49, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Unhelpful, unexplained

I note that you didn't respond to a post here complaining about your nonresponse to a post elsewhere complaining about your post regarding someone's post complaining about yet another person's post relating to an earlier post commenting on a post of one of the persons complaining about the post responding to the other post. Care to comment? E Eng 23:30, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I have PGSD from that lot. (Post Gramatic Stress Disorder) -Roxy the dog 00:17, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's about the size of it, User:EEng. Here's the original post:

(start of quote)

I note that, while actively editing [3], you did not reply to my post [4] regarding your intrusive post on my talkpage. I therefor consider your post unhelpful, and not contributing to any improvement at all. I advise to refresh your knowledge of basic talk habits, for example this and this section. I judge your post to be on a scale from uninformed pateralistic to gaming the system—unhelpful and undesired. Altogether, I state that you are not welcome to edit on my talkpage. DePiep (talk) 10:03, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(end of quote)

I did read DePiep's response to (what was meant to be) a friendly note on his talk page, considered replying, then noticed he had deleted the conversation. I'm not a great fan of having conversations split across multiple places, so when I saw their message here I deleted it, with my best attempt at a conciliatory edit summary.

I think I stand by my original advice to DePiep, that templating someone who is experienced here is unlikely to effect a positive change in their behaviour. But I can also see that my own intervention has not really helped anyone either. Sorry about that; my intentions were good and what I said was sincere. DePiep is probably not the only one who thinks I am "uninformed [and] pateralistic", as I have three daughters who might doubtless say the same. Luckily I am no longer bound by the provisions of WP:ADMINACCT nor ever likely to be, so it doesn't really matter. It's been an interesting reminder that folks who sign up to write a free encyclopedia can get passionate about the strangest things. I include myself in that. Take care, John (talk) 11:33, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to decide whether or not you realize my OP was made in jest. Years of experience have shown that DePiep consistently misinterprets social interactions, always in the direction of seeing dark motives in others' actions -- see David Eppstein's bullet near the bottom of WP:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1018#EEng_agression, and WP:Editing_restrictions#DePiep. So don't beat yourself up. E Eng 14:55, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, I totally understood that your OP was humorous, but like all your best comments, there was a serious point behind it, which I tried to answer. Interesting that DePiep is under these restrictions; a more thin-skinned person than myself might have reported him to AN/I. Never mind; I'm just here to improve some articles these days. Thanks for your continuing ability to remind us of the deep silliness that sometimes manifests when we are passionate. We all need that sometimes. John (talk) 16:08, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Even though he annoys the hell out of me, there's something sad about him that prevents me from making trouble for him. E Eng 17:26, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think I met him on some Chemistry article back in the day. I agree, I forgive him a lot for his 200k edits. He's been here even longer than I have. John (talk) 21:39, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Nonmetal

Hi John; I noticed you'd returned recently. Nice to see you're active again.

Some years ago you helped me with some copyediting which resulted in an elements-related article (I forget which one) being promoted to FAC.

Would you be able to bring your CE talent to the nonmetal article? I rec'd help from Sandy Georgia with copy editing the early part of it and then copy edited the rest of it on the basis of what I learnt from her. The article has been through five unsuccessful FAC's, and 2 PR's. It seems the only thing missing is a final CE check and top up. I'd be surprised if the CE work involved would be particularly onerous.

Thank you, Sandbh (talk) 06:20, 29 September 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Of course. Thank you for asking. John (talk) 06:25, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

G'day John. Are you still in long, hard thinking mode or could I proceed and implement the proposed changes set out at the talk page? I know you don't appreciate a moving target. Thank you. — Sandbh (talk) 05:52, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbh, sorry I haven't been as active as I had hoped, I've been unwell, and I took a few days off. I've read the discussion there, and I support what you are doing. I will check in as and when I can. John (talk) 19:29, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi John. I've implemented the changes discussed on the talk page. Per your comment, I hope you'll be pleased to learn that I've removed mention of electronegativity from the lede. First mention of EN now doesn't occur until section 2.1 on chemical properties. Tremendous regards, Sandbh (talk) 03:34, 26 October 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Hi John, it has been a little while since I’ve heard from you. How are you travelling? Well, I hope :) Sandbh (talk) 02:10, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

October music

Today is Erntedank in Germany, thanksgiving, and we celebrated our village's 650th anniversary, and had the dress rehearsal for Verdi's Requiem with an interesting band of marimba, piano, horn, bass, timpani and drum, - concert tomorrow, our national holiday. Seeing a pic I took on the Main page was also a nice harvest. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's lovely! I am glad you had a good day. I didn't sleep well, and unlike the protagonist in Rilke's "Herbsttag", woke up early and copyedited an article. Now winding down towards sleep. Gute Nacht! John (talk) 22:20, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

same winding here, - look for Rilke on my talk after sleep --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

new day, another pictured DYK (but not pictured by me this time): look at power work tensions (if you translate) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:55, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Beautiful! And another thing I want to see in summer 2023! Reminds me of this, closer to home for me. John (talk) 22:11, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

thank you! - today's DYK: two facts from the two concert of this years Rheingau Musik Festival I liked best, both a cappella singing. If you follow the songs, you see a circus, where I performed singing, and in the end the whole tent joined for Dona nobis pacem. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

who shall separate us --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:53, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

spa wellness: last day of BWV 56, and two great musicians who died --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Beautiful! John (talk) 22:37, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

thank you - today a woman in red, cellist Ella van Poucke, with a video in the article --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:33, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

... followed by the new hall where she played - I always like to see my pics on the Main page, - then the mezzo of our Verdi concert, finally don't miss Hannah Pick-Goslar, - met a cat today, pictured --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What a sad story! Thank you. Where's the cat? We have two and they are as lazy and entitled as you can imagine, but still somehow lovable. John (talk) 21:09, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The cat is hiding under songs above the tree. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:29, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

leaving the month with reformation and a cat treat (same cat) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:07, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Jackson needs a barber, a clean up and maybe a bit of extra trimming.

Hi John! I pinged you on the Talk:Andrew Jackson page, but I'm not sure it may have popped up. Here's what I put:

You had mentioned you'd be open to copy editing Andrew Jackson. I've recently finished with a major trim and edit of the the biography sections (i.e., the sections between the lead and the legacy) and I was wondering if you have the time and energy to put your talents to work cleaning this up. I've done a first-pass trim, but there are still weeds that need plucking. You are used to my ability to torture prose, so it shouldn't be too bad on your side, and I think Joan of Arc shows we can do a pretty good job together. And who knows, maybe it'd be fun to do. Please let me know, and if you are game, please just jump in and go at it!

The page has calmed down, and seems to be a positive working space. I'm now working on the legacy, and at the end I'm hoping to get a team to do a reworking of the lead. But those sections I edit could use a serious clean up, maybe even more trimming. (As will the legacy, when I work it out). If this article is not something you're interested or able to take on, I more than understand. It was contentious, and it is long, but I thought asking you was worth a try. Thanks! Wtfiv (talk) 20:59, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for asking. I'll be delighted to take a look. John (talk) 21:01, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's wonderful! thank you so much for taking a look at it. Wtfiv (talk) 21:03, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It might be a day or two, Wtfiv. Things are busy here. But I'll get to it. John (talk) 02:23, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I get it, there's so much to be done in Wikipedia land, and then there's our personal life! I'll still work on legacy while waiting, but I'm so glad you'll take a look! Wtfiv (talk) 02:37, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm so sorry, User:Wtfiv, that I have not really got to this yet. It isn't because I've forgotten. A family member has been ill, and then another. And now I am going away for a few days to recuperate. When I come back, at the weekend, I should be able to give this the attention that it deserves. I thoroughly support the work you are doing there. See you in a few. John (talk) 22:02, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi John, It's good to hear from you, though I am sorry that family has been ill. I'm glad you are still interested in looking at the article! There's no rush. I'm glad you are taking care of yourself. Wtfiv (talk) 23:46, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Elizabeth II

At the talkpage, I'm assuming you meant regular editors, rather then regular articles. GoodDay (talk) 17:28, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I am not well rested, nor am I getting any younger. John (talk) 17:53, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BrE

You're changing orthography that's already British English, claiming it's to make it British English. Just stop. — kwami (talk) 06:15, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You seem highly confused on the subject of spelling. Having spent almost a month debating the subject, I now consider the matter closed. Thanks a lot for your interest in spelling variants, but it's time to move on to something more interesting like improving the article to try to get through FAC. Doesn't this interest you? This will make interesting reading for you, perhaps, if you want to learn even more on the topic of spelling variants. John (talk) 06:19, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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In appreciation

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		By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with this award in recognition of the thorough, detailed and actionable review you carried out for Ceres (dwarf planet) at FAC. This work is very much appreciated. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:29, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! That was very kind of you. John (talk) 13:31, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It was well earned. I notice that this is the first FAC review from you for a while. Hopefully there will not be such a long wait before the next.

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so ~~an admin~~ John copied the content of a deleted page by a different user into the user's sandbox, in 2008, and get's a welcome to Wikipedia? ... and that is suddenly in for speedy deletion? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:41, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Almost, but not quite. John is not an admin. Bishonen | tålk 11:28, 11 February 2023 (UTC).[reply]

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The Signpost: 5 June 2023

News and notes: WMRU director forks new 'pedia, birds flap in top '22 piccy, WMF weighs in on Indian gov's map axe plea

In the media: Section 230 stands tall, WP vs. UK bill, Miss Information dissed again

Featured content: Poetry under pressure

Traffic report: Celebs, controversies and a chatbot in the public eye

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The Signpost: 19 June 2023

News and notes: WMF Terms of Use now in force, new Creative Commons licensing

In the media: English WP editor glocked after BLP row on Italian 'pedia

Featured content: Content, featured

Recent research: Hoaxers prefer currently-popular topics

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The Signpost: 3 July 2023

News and notes: Online Safety Bill: Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia UK launch open letter

Disinformation report: Imploded submersible outfit foiled trying to sing own praises on Wikipedia

In the media: Journo proposes mass Wiki dox, sponsored articles on Fandom, Section 230 discussed

Featured content: Incensed

Traffic report: Are you afraid of spiders? Arnold? The Idol? ChatGPT?

Humour: United Nations dispatches peacekeeping force to Wikipedia policy discussions

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The Signpost: 17 July 2023

News and notes: Big bux hidden beneath wine-dark sea as we wait for the Tides to go out?

In the media: Tentacles of Emirates plot attempt to ensnare Wikipedia

Obituary: David Thomsen (Dthomsen8) and Ingo Koll (Kipala)

News from the WMF: ABC for Fundraising: Advancing Banner Collaboration for fundraising campaigns

In focus: Are the children of celebrities over-represented in French cinema?

Tips and tricks: What automation can do for you (and your WikiProject)

Recent research: Wikipedia-grounded chatbot "outperforms all baselines" on factual accuracy

Humour: New fringe theories to be introduced

Cobwebs: If you're reading this, you're probably on a desktop

Featured content: Scrollin', scrollin', scrollin', keep those readers scrollin', got to keep on scrollin', Rawhide!

Traffic report: The Idol becomes the Master

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July thanks

July songs

my story today

On today's Main page, you can find a cantata that Bach first performed 300 years ago, and an iconic saxophonist from East Germany. Also: a bit about the history of QAI on my talk. Thank you for being part of it, at times! - A new member designed a user box that I adopted. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:58, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

While today's DYK highlights Santiago on his day, I did my modest share with my story today, describing what I just experienced, pictured. I began the article of the woman in green. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:00, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 1 August 2023

News and notes: City officials attempt to doxx Wikipedians, Ruwiki founder banned, WMF launches Mastodon server

In the media: Truth, AI, bull from politicians, and climate change

Disinformation report: Hot climate, hot hit, hot money, hot news hot off the presses!

Obituary: Donald Cram, Peter McCawley, and Eagleash

Tips and tricks: Citation tools for dummies!

Humour: Does Wikipedia present neutral perspectives?

In focus: Journals cited by Wikipedia

Opinion: Are global bans the last step?

Featured content: Featured Content, 1 to 15 July

Traffic report: Come on Oppie, let's go party

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The Signpost: 15 August 2023

News and notes: Dude, Where's My Donations? Wikimedia Foundation announces another million in grants for non-Wikimedia-related projects

In the media: An accusation of bias from Brazil, a lawsuit from Portugal, plagiarism from Florida

In focus: 2023 Good Article Nomination drive is underway: get your barnstars here!

Special report: Thirteen years later, why are most administrators still from 2005?

Tips and tricks: How to find images for your articles, check their copyright, upload them, and restore them

Cobwebs: Getting serious about writing

Opinion: Copyright trolls, or the last beautiful free souls on this planet?

Serendipity: Why I stopped taking photographs almost altogether

Featured content: Barbenheimer confirmed

Humour: Arbitration Committee to accept case against Right Honorable Frimbley Cantingham, 15th Viscount Bellington-upon-Porkshire

Traffic report: 'Cause today it just goes with the fashion

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The Signpost: 31 August 2023

From the editor: Beta version of signpost.news now online

News and notes: You like RecentChanges?

In the media: Taking it sleazy

Recent research: The five barriers that impede "stitching" collaboration between Commons and Wikipedia

Draftspace: Bad Jokes and Other Draftspace Novelties

Humour: The Dehumourification Plan

Traffic report: Raise your drinking glass, here's to yesterday

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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open

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The Signpost: 16 September 2023

News and notes: Wikimedia power sharing – just an advisory role for the volunteer community?

In the media: "Just flirting", going Dutch and Shapps for the defence?

Obituary: Nosebagbear

Serendipity: Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no paywall, for thou, Wikipedia Library, art with me

Featured content: Catching up

Concept: Strange portal opened by CERN researchers brings Wikipedia articles from "other worlds"

Traffic report: Some of it's magic, some of it's tragic

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The Signpost: 3 October 2023

News and notes: Wikimedia Endowment financial statement published

In the media: History is written by whoever can harness the most editors

Recent research: Readers prefer ChatGPT over Wikipedia; concerns about limiting "anyone can edit" principle "may be overstated"

Featured content: By your logic,

Concept: Wikipedia policies from other worlds: WP:NOANTLERS

Poetry: "The Sight"

Traffic report: There shall be no slaves in the land of lands, it's a Bollywood jam

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October music

October songs
my story today

Today, it's a place that inspired me, musings if you have time. My corner for memory and music has today a juxtaposition of what our local church choirs offer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:47, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 23 October 2023

News and notes: Where have all the administrators gone?

In the media: Thirst traps, the fastest loading sites on the web, and the original collaborative writing

Gallery: Before and After: Why you don't need to know how to restore images to make massive improvements

Featured content: Yo, ho! Blow the man down!

Traffic report: The calm and the storm

News from Diff: Sawtpedia: Giving a Voice to Wikipedia Using QR Codes

Humour: New citation template introduced for divine revelations, drug use, and really thinking about it

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The Signpost: 6 November 2023

Arbitration report: Admin bewilderingly unmasks self as sockpuppet of other admin who was extremely banned in 2015

In the media: UK shadow chancellor accused of ripping off WP articles for book, Wikipedians accused of being dicks by a rich man

News and notes: Board candidacy process posted, editors protest WMF privacy measure, sweet meetups

Opinion: An open letter to Elon Musk

WikiCup report: The WikiCup 2023

News from Wiki Ed: Equity lists on Wikipedia

Recent research: How English Wikipedia drove out fringe editors over two decades

Featured content: Like putting a golf course in a historic site.

Wikidata: Evaluating qualitative systemic bias in large article sets on Wikipedia

Traffic report: Cricket jumpscare

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The Signpost: 20 November 2023

In the media: Propaganda and photos, lunatics and a lunar backup

News and notes: Update on Wikimedia's financial health

Traffic report: If it bleeds, it leads

Recent research: Canceling disputes as the real function of ArbCom

Wikimania: Wikimania 2024 scholarships

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The Signpost: 4 December 2023

News and notes: Beeblebrox ejected from Arbitration Committee following posts on Wikipediocracy

In the media: Turmoil on Hebrew Wikipedia, grave dancing, Olga's impact and inspiring Bhutanese nuns

Disinformation report: "Wikipedia and the assault on history"

In focus: Tens of thousands of freely available sources flagged

Comix: Bold comics for a new age

Essay: I am going to die

Featured content: Real gangsters move in silence

Traffic report: And it's hard to watch some cricket, in the cold November Rain

Humour: Mandy Rice-Davies Applies

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Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2024!

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Happy New Year

		Happy New Year!
		Wishing you and yours a Happy New Year, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free and may Janus light your way. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:38, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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